@6Rz!M'G)L&jd3s1C$| rB~)rcfrIK\)&P\X. Copyright 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Some expanders will also flare the end of the pipe to allow it to fit easily inside the next pipe. 
Worked well but of course it is not a technique for metal pipe fittings. We did try heating one and it split just as easy. 
Any updates on mechanical expanders that might actually work? This page was generated at 09:51 PM. 
Performing repairs on your exhaust system require the right types of tools and parts. Terms of Service. You can buy pipe expanding tool pretty cheaply. This was working on a sewer line down 36" in the yard. I have a chunk of 1-3/4" pipe I need to connect to another chunk of 1-3/4" pipe. Learn more about us. http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalo18-gauge-304-stainless-straight-tube-390.html, http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-32500-Exhaust-Pipe-Expander/dp/B0002STSNU, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I have some exhaust work to do and as usual it makes a good excuse to get some new tools. MicrosoftOfficE2019PROFESSIONALPLUS, MicrosoftOfficE2021PROFESSIONALPLUS, MicrosoftOfficE20212019PROFESSIONALPLUS, 48 product ratings - Lisle Exhaust Tail Pipe Expander Stretcher Tool Kit For Use with Impact Wrench, 1 product ratings - BLUE-POINT TOOLS Tailpipe/Exhaust PIPE Stretcher PH300 USA, 48 product ratings - LISLE 17350 PIPE STRETCHER KIT MADE IN USA, 7 product ratings - Lisle 34400 Tailpipe Stretcher - Exhaust Pipe Stretcher for Automobiles, 3 product ratings - 4-Piece Exhaust Pipe Cutter Nut Splitter Expander Repair Kit Mechanics Hand Tool, 7 product ratings - 1-5/8" to 2-7/16" Exhaust Pipe / Tailpipe Expander Stretcher LIS34400. check out the. I have one with 4 segments and one with 8. These will have a hose to connect the ram to the pump to build pressure and expand the collet. You will never get a good slip/seal with the expanding type. {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. A tailpipe expander is a tool that fits inside your exhaust pipe. The pipe really doesn't come out "lumpy" but if you are concerned about that you can loosen it and rotate it slightly to iron out the pipe. Practical Machinist is the easiest way to learn new techniques, get answers quickly and discuss common challenges with your peers. 
You are using an out of date browser. Select a type: You can choose between mechanical tail pipe expanders and hydraulic options as well. This, in turn, will expand the diameter of the pipe. II bought the expander that you show in kit form. If so its going to take forever to do a sleeve as you will have to do it in small expansion increments bit at a time rotating the expander between goes. Is there an effective method for expanding the end of a piece of new exhust pipe using tools found in the average shop? Once you have used it, you will be able to figure it out. Something went wrong. For general muffler work however you don't have to do anything. Sorry no pictures, but there is a shade tree way of doing this. Choose a brand: Some brands will be compatible with specific brands of vehicles or engine sizes. Either take it to a muffler shop and pay a few bucks or pony up for a real expander.
:thumbup: Not sure I would have done the same.. :embarrass.
Will the expander kit remove the ridge created by U clamps also? Because of this, the material of exhaust pipe that youre likely to work with can change the specific kind of expander you may want. I used a impact gun on it until it exploded n stripped out. I've tried the cheapy/screw type expanders a few times and never completed a single joint. So I expanded that end a little and left it to sit for 5 minutes or so.
The units which increase the size of a tube are usually some form of hydraulic porta-power. More work up front but you'll be thankful next time you work on it. Not sure what you mean by not pretty,,, the hydraulic expanders are the same principle as the manual. And that can be handy.
I wouldnt do a full weld on any exhaust in case you have to remove it to repair another part of the vehicle. Thanks. As the wrench turns the nut, the diameter of the tool will expand to stretch the pipe. You must log in or register to reply here. I have used it to make a set of merge collectors that were a slip fit over the primaries. 
I've noticed these expanders show up on the market lately. 
You know, to remove the ridge from the clamp and make it round again. I'v had them for years but I know you could get them for less than $100.00. I've found the best way to put an exhaust together is to either size it so tubes slide together, or run with all one size of pipe and make sleeves to fit. 
I use one of those manual pipe expanders to make squished pipes round again, I've never had any luck expanding one enough for a slip fit, it ends up not quite round. Average quote turn around time for custom tooling ? When I bought it you got one size and the rest were bought separately. So the ability to do up to 5" at home would be great. 
The cheap one is only to make the pipe round again, the expensive one will allow you to make a pipe slide over another one. While you may be able to increase the tube size slightly with these tools, they are really made to reshape a previously clamped tube. It's big, heavy, and in the way most of the time, but when it comes to bending and expanding, it can't be beat. I'd like to minimize the use of adapters. Like I said not something I would use often but they come in handy and I have an excuse to buy some exhaust tools! Has roller bearing and boy can you put the impact to it. Lisle in particular makes a really nice kit that goes up to 4.25" and even have another adapter that goes over 5" and says it will do stainless. Register for the worlds largest manufacturing technology forum for free today to stay in the know. Use an impact wrench, and soak the whole expander and pipe in spray lube. you can expand a pipe by at least 1/2 inch just put a 1/2 impact to it and go usually have to spin the expander a bit and do it a second time to keep the pipe round because it will almost square it up if you stay in one place and expand a lot . This is going to cost you a six pack, its 10 degrees here and I have to get dressed and go out to the garage and see if I can find it. 
JCWhitney has flanges or you can make them. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. I'd be unsurprised to discover that a cyclindrical outer former would be necessary for each bite size to ensure that things (probably) won't go pear shape. Intramik makes good expanders similar to the welders precision c clamp, Fabrication: CNC Laser, Waterjet, Plasma, Welding. It works well. They work okay if you are trying to fix a ding or something, but when it comes to expanding a virgin pipe there is no substitute for the real deal. With more than 10.6 million unique visitors over the last year, Practical Machinist is the most visited site for metalworking professionals. All of the pipe expanders or tube crimpers I have worked with have had 8 or more segments, so I'm going to guess that this no name tool probably won't give terribly good results. A few of the rollers in the bearing split in half longways.
All Rights reserved. They work quite well for the occasional user. Mechanical: These models work with an impact wrench to expand the tool. This is my pipe expander - you need to heat the pipe for it to expand. I'm just curious because I have my first exhaust project comming up and I will be using stainless tubing. And the bigger kit is more of a true expander. New exhaust pipes can have issues fitting with your existing exhaust system, and tailpipe expanders can help make the process simpler. 
I could not get it over one pipe even after wire brushing etc. I was using the impact, but wasn't really pounding it too hard. There seems to be a problem serving the request at this time, Trim Removal Tool Other Automotive Hand Tools, Automotive Hand Tool Ball Joint Splitters, Ingersoll Rand Hydraulics, Pneumatics, Pumps & Plumbing, Chicago Pneumatic Hydraulics, Pneumatics, Pumps & Plumbing. 
Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I can also see why you have to rotate the expander to keep the pipe round. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I ended up finding one place that barely could do it on their machine, the die was all the way unscrewed and kept falling off as they expanded it. In order to get the pipe to the correct size to slide over the other one, I had to adjust it a couple of times. I have a pair of 2" exhaustpipes on my '57 Chrysler which I cut and removed the crappy barfing glasspack mufflers out of. ). That one looks to only have two expander segments. They have served me well but I only use them occasionally. A new bearing was cheap. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. the cheaper finger type are one step from useless and i have a few broken ones to prove that . You must log in or register to reply here. I've never found a manual one that worked worth a shit. Anyway I think you get the picture.
I have the second one and it works great. I have an older one that I don't use much but has come in handy here and there, mostly to get ridges out of exhaust pipe that has had U clamps on it. ). Header slips are made with a solid mandrel that is pressed into the inside of the tube to expand it. What wall thickness was the material you had when it split? This is the kind of info that can save tons of hours searching and measuring. After I stretch with the 4 segment tool I rotate it 45* and stretch again,other wise it's not round. View cart for details.
That makes sense. if you are looking to remove clamp grooves snap on used to make a nice roller that works with a 1/2 hand ratchet they work great but haven't been available for years you can find them on ebay once in a while and fairly reasonable. Hydraulic Exhaust Pipe Expander Stretcher Fabrication Turbo Racing Tailpipe Tube | eBay. Discussion in 'The Garage' started by sailah, Mar 31, 2013. This is the type I am familiar with and was talking about: Wow Rob SS thanks for going out in 10* weather for that. Spend a few bucks and get an exhaust pipe expander. Nobody I called in town could reshape the outer 4" pipe. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
Privacy Policy. Off the shelf. There is a threaded cone at each end of the fingers. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://wesco-enterprise.amazonwebstipe-Stretcher-34400-by-Lisle/M/B0002STSPS.htm, http://www.toolsusa.com/asp/item_detail.asp?T1=PBE 9WT LIS32500, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 
If you don't, you wind up with a square pipe end. http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/1720102, https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=yWfm9924Fm8, http://www.huthbenders.com/huth-products/expanders-and-swagers/mitey-mate-jr-model-1685s, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I came across an exhaust machine (bender/expander) for a good price and it has made life easy. 4 or 5 tighten/loosen cycles and you should have enough expansion. Ok so the ones with fingers are just for little stuff like taking the U clamp ridge out of used pipes? The cleanest best looking ghetto way of putting pipes together I think. JavaScript is disabled. Looks like a wheel bearing you might find on the non-driven wheel of a light car. 
Then quick remove the plug and install it down the hole. 
I agree band clamps are head and shoulders above conventional style muffler clamps. You are using an out of date browser. 
Weld a flange on each end and bolt them together. Many tailpipe expanders available on eBay can help bend tubes in addition to expanding the metal. Mine are built on the principal of the expanding reamer. Once used, it will expand the diameter of the pipe to allow it to fit with your existing exhaust system parts. I don't know how much you are going to use this tool but that seems pricey. I bought one of those cheap "tail pipe" expanders and I am not having much luck with it. 
Choose features: Some tailpipe expanders will have additional features available such as dent removers, flaring, and others. I agree with Boostinjdm, I've tried several of the tailpipe expanders and with new pipe they will fail when used for this application. 
They have 8 "fingers" that have "o" ring grooves and "O" rings that hold the fingers together. Its one of the best I have used. Peter - novice home machinist, modern motorcycle enthusiast. http://www.tooltopia.com/lisle-32750.aspx, http://www.tooltopia.com/lisle-17350.aspx, http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=565, http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=178. One more question. Both have a bolt that you tighten to spread the segments, I use a 1/2" air impact. "I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket-protector, nerdy engineer -- born under the second law of thermodynamics, steeped in the steam tables, in love with free-body diagrams, transformed by Laplace, and propelled by compressible flow.". Exhaust shops have hydraulic expanders that work pretty well.but not pretty. Do they work well? Has anyone used one? One tool has a tapered roller bearing under the bolt, it works better. 
The first time I used it, I broke my 17350. 2021 Copyright Practicalmachinist.com. 
It's the manual 8 finger type I have used in the past without impressive results. I do a lot of offroading and other exhaust abusive activities. 
I've done several this way and they always work. While looking at tooltopia at exhaust tools I see there are some newer versions of exhaust expanders. I don't own one yet, but I'm sure it will come in handy someday. JavaScript is disabled. 
Select a size: An expander will be listed with a range of pipe sizes that its compatible with. The only thing you need to pay attention to with it is you need to expand a bit, rotate a bit, and repeat until you get to the desired ID. All times are GMT-5. those cheap expanders are junk. Does it use an off the shelf bearing, or something you gotta order from the manufacturer? I have the 17350 kit.
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BigBlockMopar, Oct 6, 2009. Or do you need both types, one to expand and one to reshape and remove that ridge clamps leave? Considered it has the word 'turbo' in the ad, I'm also going to guess its marketed toward the backyard 'mechanic' that will use it once and won't know the difference anyways. Hydraulic: Hydraulic options use a hand pump and a hydraulic ram to expand the pipes. Or just fit them carefully and bring them to a welder to weld them.
JavaScript is disabled. impact guns work on the Am pro expanders, but you have to be careful, as the threads are soft and they strip out very easy.. had that happen to 2 of them. Then just use a pair of hoseclamps to close it up and weld up the gap. I did a 4" exhaust on a diesel one time and accidentally tightened down a U clamp and the inner pipe wasn't in all the way so the outer pipe had a ridge in it now and wouldn't let the inner pipe slide in. I have found that if you cut a piece off the end then make a cut across that piece it will spring open to fit over the original pipe. But they do make strait fit (not stepped) ones for that purpose. I've abused it since then and it's held up. Thanks Big Kev. They will do the job but don't allow a lot of finesse or even-looking results. I have the one with the bearing got it from snap on likely its rebranded lisle . I would avoid other methods along with butt welding.
Though they work great to make them round again.
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