Paint the parts in a well-ventilated, well lighted, area. I didnt use anything as big as a stove hood tho. Makers remorse is always better than buyers remorse. Glad you found it useful. Also, you need to be sure that your airflow is great enough that you're really getting all of the fumes. Does putting a fan into an enclosure produce more airflow? Thanks. I put a pvc shower drain fitting in an old galvanized oil pan to use as the hood. --- RJL ----------------------------------------------. Did you make this project? Just working in a 6x6 ft area of it and try to evacuate the fumes from that area with a hose hanging down close to the work. i am using just a simple pc fan with filter from cooking extractor and a grill protector. That's a great setup you have. But, if you have a fan and enclosure in your spare parts bin, this would be a good use of them! Works for me though, doing my little stuff, and much better than looking out the window at the cold and snow wishing it was warm enough to enjoy some welding out there. Sucks the smoke up. Thinking about getting a 150 or 200 cfm bathroom fan, ducting outside, and then hang a hose down close to the work area. I haven't measured the airflow but it looks like the Silverstone grills are much more restrictive than the chrome grill. You might also consider a standard filter in front of the HEPA filter to extend the HEPA filter's lifespan.
Very good. Im in love with this stuff. If there's no functional reason to have it be that deep, I be inclined to try to build a thinner one and perhaps mount it on a gooseneck or something similar. Thanks for the idea. on Introduction. 6 years ago, Acetone can kill you.
This is definitely a game changer for me. The Miller has the easiest process switching but uses funky proprietary TIG hookup and lacks some configurability and hardening against the elements of the ESAB. You are using an out of date browser. I washed down the garage last week and now it should stay clean. Press J to jump to the feed. Thanks. That's it. The ones I've seen, the openings have only been like 16x8 tops.
It may not display this or other websites correctly. Mount the fan and chrome grill on the back lid with the 2 #8-32 screws and nylon lock nuts. I'll be starting a new trailer build soon, and with the weather in the 5*F range ain't nobody going to weld with the doors open. I appreciate every ones input! Reply The arm is held in place by the friction of the bolts. Pass the cord through the wire grommet from the outside of the enclosure and pull through a good length of cord Last winter I did a few projects where the amount of smoke and dust in the shop felt unsafe, so I knew I needed something. check out the. When I stick weld it covers the place with smoke. Worked really good! The reason I was looking at a bath fan was that I could mount it on the ceiling and leave it there,hard duct it outside, have to fab a new lid on the suction side as I know a tinner, with probably a 4" nipple to hook a flexible hose to get close to my work. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180522&showall=1. You must log in or register to reply here. Use one of the Silverstone grills as a template to cut a square of filter material and poke the mounting holes
I have to be honest, I have no idea what it was originally intended for. I made sure the switch fit when I filed the hole. I like the control knob, very responsive. I was looking for something I could just leave up, and would be quieter than a shop vac running. I just do smaller projects, and will be mig welding not flux core for little fab projects. The ESAB has the most configurable settings but a smaller dealer and support network than the Miller and a weird pedal connector which can complicate using button controlled TIG. Shop volume would be key if you are planning to move air in the entire shop. Probably not OSHA compliant but neither is any thing about my little basement shop. RNeumann, thanks, I do have opposing windows in my shop along with the 2 overhead doors, so I can crack the back window for the makeup air. Scuff the entire outside surface of the enclosure and lids with Scotch-Bright to help the paint adhere to the surface. This page was generated at 12:01 PM. Let me just run that past the wife and see how see likes it. Non ducted kitchen fans may have some activated charcoal filters could that work? Been there done that! The foam "filter" that's used to keep dust out of your computer case will not capture the nastiness that soldering produces. In the summer time a simple fan blowing out a window or even set up in the overhead doorway or entry door would work. I opened up the hole and cut the keyway by filing out the extra material. What about venting it through the roof? You know, put a cap on it like ya do for a furnace or stove. Mount the filter sandwich and the fan in the enclosure with the lid screws included with the enclosure. Tie a knot in the power cord to prevent it from being pulled out the power cord hole and grommet. Rather than struggle with the switch, I ran the power cord that came with the fan out the switch hole so I could power the thing up. nice job! The inside didn't seem to bad, but I vacuumed it out anyway. So as I am learning about this, is 200 cfm enough to evacuate my 6x6 ft area I am working in, or is there another type of fan I could use to do it, or would I have to get into a shop vac. He had hooked the hose to a 3'x3' 6" deep pan over his bench. Looked into making some kind of anglepoise system with counterweights but decided this would be simpler and easier. check out the. I had a smallish dust collector sitting around and put a sheet metal reducer on one end and ran the other into a chimney. Unless something's changed, Digikey or Hammond owe you two lids. How about something with a wider mouth feeding into the flex? Now that's something that's feasible. Removing the mesh looks like it would improve the airflow a bit. That looks like it should work nicely.
Also, a question about the form factor: is there a reason that you chose an enclosure with as much depth as that one, or did it just happen to be the best fit? Thank you so much for the info man Ill have to look into it a bit more but I really appreciate ya. If everything fits and works up to this point, disassemble everything and get ready for paint.
I fitted a ducted fan to pull fresh air from outside, ducted to where I usually weld but with the ability to be unclipped and directed elsewhere. Ths is my welding fume extractor which I build a couple of years ago. This is a really nice looking fan, think it's about time I build myself one! That would work. I had a small powder coating business for about 7 years and our powder/paint booth had a series of internal filters in a plenum and a hepa filter system on the top and that worked really well, but it wasn't cheap so I'm guessing that I'm kinda stuck where I am. The reducer was about 8"-10"x6". I am talking like a foot or 18" stuff.
A big thank you to all of you for your help and advice. After checking out the available fume extractors, I thought I could do better putting something together myself. If itdidn'tturn out that way, at least it would be, Cooltron AC Axial Fan 120mmx120mmx38mm 110 CFM 2600 RPM, 2 x Silverstone Fan Filter with Grill 120mm, 16A 125V DPST Rocker Switch E-Switch RR812C1121 or equivalent, Arduino Robotic Arm Controlled by Touch Interface. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Reply Stick the self-adhesive rubber feet to the bottom of the enclosure. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The other day I dipped my soldering iron in tip cleaner/tinner and got a nice plume of smoke right up my nostril. I would assume so, but if I place the head 10" up in the path of the fumes I think it's OK. Thought about a shop vac too, and might have to go that way. Separate and strip the fan cords conductors
I was originally thinking about a hood as well. I have a squirrel cage blower and was looking more into the hood aspect of the DIY project. I would have loved a similar box with about half the depth. Very hi-tech. on Step 6, 8 years ago Bill of Materials:Cooltron AC Axial Fan 120mmx120mmx38mm 110 CFM 2600 RPMCarbon Filter Material2 x Silverstone Fan Filter with Grill 120mm120mm Chrome Fan GrillHammond 1415D 6x6x6 Steel Enclosure16A 125V DPST Rocker Switch E-Switch RR812C1121 or equivalent Naturally, I would put it on her side of the garage. Fan+ motor from an old corn cleaner. 4 x #8-32 Nuts I use it to provide make-up air for the wood stove and the welding hood exhaust. IEC Power Cord (Computer Power Cord) Insert the .25" wire grommet into the power wire hole on the enclosure I have a dust extractor that i have not really used at all. as yet. My question being if the box came with or without lids? Smart of you to extract the welding fumes at the table level and not suck fumes past the breathing zone. My garage is usually cleaner than the house and all that smoke has been killing meliterally! Drill holes for the power switch and cord. Some good points there. nice, what the the blower come from? 24 inch flexible tube, Fume hood can adjust direction according to actual needs. I guess I need to get started on mine. Soldering Smoke Absorber, Electric Iron Welding Fume Extractor Soldering Smoke Absorber Remover DIY Fume Extractor Filter with Strong Suction.
KOTTO Soldering Smoke Absorber, Electric Iron Welding Fume Extractor Soldering Smoke Absorber Remover DIY Fume Extractor Filter with Strong Suction. Reply Amateur everything else I try to do http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D4VUGEOLGPVHY3, http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-tor-97762.html, http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se2332/C2328.oap, If this is your first visit, be sure to Suction: 40W, 6000 RPM, 52CFM, Noise Level: 55dbm, Life Expectancy: 50,000 hours, Static pressure: 125mmH2O. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011J6JCN4. Thanks for the cheap idea! I can watch all the smoke getting sucked into the hood. i probably will use one of thease though. Cut the fan connector off the power cord that came with the fan with a little more than enough wire to reach the switch Leave enough space to clear the 1.5 thick fan. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Theres more than a couple improvements that I could make and more than a few things I could have added at the beginning, but keeping it simple helped get it done. I've spent too much time breathing the stuff that emanates from the tips of soldering irons. GG, what you have going on there is exactly what I am looking for, for the amount of times I will be doing this. Great timing. I could taste that crap in my LUNGS, such a bad menthol/chemically taste ugh. Would it be possible to use the second grill that you got instead of the chrome wire grill on the intake side of it though? US based customer support, 30 days full satisfaction no question asked return period. Im happy with how this project turned out. I don't think I can justify a hole in the garage door, but I did think about cutting one in the outside wall though.
Works great!! I try to keep the garage door open about a foot or two and use a little fan but the smoke still gets all over everything and my feet get kinda cold on those really cold days. It was given to me by my father in law who is the type of guy that's acquired lots of tools and industrial stuff.
After checking out the available fume extractors, I thought I could do better putting something together myself. :), 9 years ago I will be making this when the other parts come in the mail. It works real good for work I do on the bench but otherwise I'd need an extension or a wheeled unit. I looked at a Miller but I liked that the Esab came with the Tig setup included. I thought this machine would be great for nail fume extraction. No issues. on Introduction. Nice clean and compact. Since I use it almost every day, I added to this unit a dc foot pedal operated on and off switch. I would also be painting these items. Adjustable optimized 6000 RPM high suction fan is low noise and allows you to remove fumes 5-6 inches away.
You could build a stand for it and you'd be all set. Cut a 4.5 hole in the center of each lid, and drill the grill and fan holes I was stick welding and there was a fair amt of smoke.
I'm tired of the smoke from my welding practice getting all over everything in my garage (not to mention my lungs!). if its a freeflow fan reducing size pipe wont improve the suction it will reduce the airflow. You must log in or register to reply here. I can weld down there and not set off the fire alarm that is down there or get fumes upstairs with the door open to let some heat up from the stove. A vent could be run up into the attic and then out the roof. Self-Adhesive Rubber Feet. Shrink Tube
Mine certainly moves a lot of air. Unplug the power cord I made something years ago now. to get it all to fit. If you always weld in the same position then a fixed extraction funnel should work, otherwise you should look at building or buying some kind of movable / articulated hose. I haven't really beat on it yet. Still very pleased with it. I ordered the same box (Hammond 1415D 6x6x6 Steel Enclosure). JavaScript is disabled. on Introduction. I'm debating replacing the Silverstone grill on the inside of the filter sandwich with a chrome grill, but I'm uncertain if it will seal the filter adequately. But the only reason it works so well is that I set up the hood directly behind and very close to the weld. I drilled my switch hole too far back and it was a bit of a pain to modify the fan, etc. Slide the filter down the 1.5" #8-32 screws and place the second Silverstone grill on top The picture shows lids to accompany the box, but mine arrived without lids. And sticking a fan at the window just don't work. Im wanting to get one but Ive heard good and bad about them. Trailblazer 302 * Millermatic 212 * Syncrowave 180SD * X-Treme 12VS Feeder * Spoolmate 3035, http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtalad.php?t=37938, http://www.facebook.com/cary.urka.urkafarms, If this is your first visit, be sure to working on a fume extractor myself, but of a bigger scale, kind of like a welding booth about 8' wide, and 3' deep. You must log in or register to reply here. But it has very good weather hardening and superior extension cord and 120 volt capabilities. Because soldering fumes are composed of both tiny particles and gasses, you need both a HEPA particulate filter as well as an activated carbon filter to neutralize the respective threats. Determine which fan mounting bolt is going to hold the ground wire and remove the paint from the fan in that area I didnt expect it would be thats powerful. I'll have to ponder that one All times are GMT-6. Perfect size not to big or to small. Between breathing it and using it to clean off resin from my hands when building a boat - OUTSIDE, I ended up in emergency room twice with final in intensive care with chemical poisoning with organs shutting down. I got in touch with them, they will send me a new box with both lids and screws. If your switch hole is just big enough, it can be difficult to pop the switch in and out. Is it just tightening the bolts at the joints or something else?
Luck was on my side this time and I dont have to deal with any remorse. Or would that restrict airflow too much and reduce the effectiveness? Very nice looking project! Great idea, I've got a foam insulated shop its extremely air tight. I hate a dirty garage. I like well enough. Wire Eyelet Yeah mine came with lids and screws for the lids. flingwing 1969, thanks, I should have stated my shop is 24x32 insulated, drywalled and has heat. If itdidn'tturn out that way, at least it would be my loud, expensive, and low air flow fume extractor. Simple and cheap! I needed something that was sturdy and with 6" ends on it and the Hammond box was really all I could come up with. I could put some lacy stuff around it for her. Pass all four wires out the power switch hole, add shrink tubing to all four wires, and solder in the switch (consult the switch data sheet and/or pin out the switch with a multimeter to ensure a proper connection) Right in the center of my "shop" floor I have a drain which is vented to day-light. 4 x 2 #8-32 Machine Screws 4 x 1.5 #8-32 Machine Screws Look at computer fans which go from around 50mm to over 300mm for the servers cooling, you don't neeed to overdo the suction as many make this mistake and it sucks the shielding gas away, you just need enough suction for it to remove the fumes but not the sheilding gas. What I like about this unit is that it is much much less noisy than all fume extractors that I have owned. I think it would look great over there. I drilled out the original lid holes in the enclosure and tapped them for the thumb screws. Looking for some ideas for a diy fume extractor for working in my shop in the winter all closed up with the heat on here in NE Ohio. Works pretty well. Rust-Oleum Hammered Black Spray Paint 7215830 on Introduction. Does it pull shielding gas away if you get too close? Im looking forward to see it in stock again. The enclosure was by far the most expensive part in this. This is a solidly built fan, metal and heavy housing. I think the smoke rises but the shielding gas does not. Clean and remove all dust, oil, and dirt from the surface to be painted. I had to mess w/ placement a bit tho. Depending on how your enclosure fits together, at this point you might want to make some notes on the back of the lids and inside of the enclosure denoting top, bottom, front lid, back lid, etc. This is my vent system. Done all three processes it's capable of, mig, Tig, stick. :-/, 6 years ago I might remove the mesh from the inside grill as you've suggested. Realistically, for the hobbyist who isn't soldering all that often, (OSHA inspectors, please skip to the next paragraph) you can probably skip the math for the airflow requirements and just go with "if I can't smell it, it's probably not hurting metoo much." Thanks for the replies everyone. The CA Cascades in the shadow of Mt. Other than being on the hokey side and requiring some safety vigilance the vac does work well. I just wish I was rich and not so handsome! 8 years ago
You can buy a fume extractor for less than the cost of the enclosure specced here. Like size and shape. Would appreciate any thoughts or experience on this to make sure I get something that will work. Now you can breathe easy while soldering. In the summer months I work with the doors open, but when it's cold I don't want to lose all the heat. And you are right, it is a pita to set up and the vac is loud.
Layout the holes for the power switch and power cord on the enclosure. WARNING: This project requires making AC power connections. Didnt notice any problems w/ it drawing away shielding gases.
Probably a good idea to do that every time I use it since I have the GUV vacuum system in my garage.
Has anyone made a hood for over their welding table and connected a blower to exhaust welding fumes outside of the building? I am going to do something like this but don't want to reinvent the wheel so to speak Maybe like this one from a couple weeks ago? Mount a Silverstone grill on the other enclosure lid using the 1.5" #8-32 screws and nuts 5 years ago, Depends on the shape and of course if there is another port on the enclosure, but yes just look at what a ducted fan can do compared to a regular propeller or even a jet engine for that matter both are shrouded like an enclosure. Assemble the filter sandwich and install the front lid I was looking at a 6 inch output bore squirrel cage one I have but decided the 1.5hp motor on it would be overkill. The smoke rises slow enough that it can be directed towards the hose from the suction. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That does look very good for the budget. From what I've noticed, these small blowers seem to collect a majority of the fumes. Finding a suitable enclosure was difficult for me. I may be missing it, but what is keeping the arm in place? Use mask or other precautions. I installed a vent hood above the welding table.
Great idea. Strip all three of the power cord conductors Please give it the diligence it deserves. 4 x #8-32 Nylon Lock Nuts Quick question. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. Homer what do you expect to catch with furnace filters other than solid contaminants, i think smoke will go thru with no effect, i know for sure that for paint shops it let the solvent odors thru. I feel compelled to issue a health warning about evil fumes, though. Very nice!
I want to do something like that over my welding table. on Introduction. Find the center of each lid and layout the locations for the fan and grill mounting holes I had some thumb screws laying around that I thought would make the fume extractor look more awesome and make changing the filter easier. Thanks for the quick reply. Drawback is pumping your heat out of the building with the smoke. It is made by a very sturdy material, makes it feel premium. I am a nail technician. Thanks for the comments. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This setup is for stick welding in the winter when the doors are closed. I hung mine in the garage with modified wire clothes hangers after blowing the dust out the door, and off the parts, with a compressor Nice job. I hung the reducer above the immediate weld area. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The fan speed is adjustable. I think commercial extractors are high volume low pressure.
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