Would you please post the web address for me. The turbine or motor which drives your air supply The smaller the motor the less power it has and thus it will have the power to only spray thin bodied materials, or materials that can be thinned down at least 30% with no problems. Plus it has the usual knob to control the amount of fluid coming out. A 0.8 or 1.0 cap is for suited for clear coats. My feeling is you will like the coatings sprayed at a finer atomization. The Apricot wood I saw, and it darkens exactly like Cherry, was over a decade old and had an absolutely gorgeous dark orangish-golden color to it. +/- pressure in the Earlex cup doesn't seem like much but it feeds fairly viscous material better than I expected. To further explain: I have never had a problem with the air being too warm. Almost right across the highway from the old Harry & David's retail store/facility. The air hose which carries the air This page was generated at 05:19 AM. Those should work well, I know the PPG envirobase will spray without any problems. https://forum.canadianwoodworking.co-fuji-semi-pro. I use a Graco commercial unit and it is fantastic. The 1.5mm will also work, but you may want to try a 1.3mm or 1.0mm to see if you get better looking result. This is great for coverage on large panels like roofs, hoods, trunk lids, etc. Since 1947 we have served as the experts on surface preparation and coating application equipment. The ECO models just dont have a way to reduce the pressure for the dip as you wont need all the power for the base or dip materials, only the clear. Wear It is important when a non-bleeder type spray gun is supplied with a turbine spray system that an air relief valve be installed internally or externally. disposable nitrile gloves when mixing and spraying paint. You could purchase the OS control for the 7500 spray gun and that would help in reducing overspray with the more powerful motor. When you make your return, youll need to note credit or exchange. If you can find an orchard being taken out I'd try like hell to talk the owner out of a stump or two if I were you. I have sprayed with both types of spray guns, and generally prefer gravity-feed (cup on top) over pot-style (cup on bottom). When painting your car, safety hazards are very real. BTW, I looked at your website - beautiful stuff Hal - good job. Heh always the odd one out. We do not sell the compressed air connector, you will need to purchase that locally for the style of air quick connects you have on your compressor. Just because a cup is under the gun doesn't necessarily make it a siphon gun. Customer satisfaction is the measure of success with Apollo TrueHVLP spray guns. The Apollo A5100 series air conversion spray guns are designed much like a turbine spray gun, not a conventional spray gun. Spray guns with O rings and plastic parts will increase the service and maintenance required. So is it possible to lay down primer and base coats with the ECO 3 or single stage paints? There is nothing wrong with such a system.HVLP has been kicked around a lot on this site. As long as your compressor is able to produce 7CFM @ 45PSI, constantly, you will have no problems spraying most materials. 1. If I purchased the ECO 3 with the e7500gto spray gun and 1.5mm needle, for the purpouse of spraying plasti dip, what cap do you recommend the standard or HS. A good respirator is essential (remember to change respirator filters often). I don't remember the name of the park it's been too many years! Or, should I say, my wife is worried about the cascade of expense here ! It worked great, but if I'm going to spend that much money, I think I would lean toward a compressor running an HVLP gun, mainly for the versatility of having a compressor, and because I don't need portability. I think it was Talent?

Update: I just bought a used Makita MAC5200 compressor on Kijiji. I used to have relatives all over that valley. You can always be assured that at Apollo Sprayers we use only the best quality, all aluminum, ball-bearing motors, manufactured in the USA by Ametek-Lamb. Is it OK to copy projects from the magazine? Like the Fuji Mini-Mites, operating range is 6.5 PSI to 9.5 PSI. Thank you for great replies. but I am somewhat still confused what is best for me partly because I did a poor job describing my work type, volume, etc. Unless I wanted to use air tools, I would certainly be disinclined to buy a big compressor just to use for spraying. An observation of "siphon" guns. A 20-page instruction manual is included with all models. The third and probably most important part of the turbine system is the spray gun. We used to go there fairly regularly. Although I'm told that they've moved a bit so that may not be a very good landmark any more. To better understand the pros and cons of gravity, suction ,and pressure feed spray guns here is an overview. In studies and tests, Apollo comes out on top. http://www.spraygunworld.com/Information2/Woodworking3.htm. Also if i wanted to use the same gun to spray automotive paints could I hook it up to a standard compressor? It features a lightweight, portable turbine that has more power than other DIY systems in it's price range. What about Shop-Line/PPG base and primers? I have a compressor I use in my shop but like the possibility of being able to bring my ECO 3 to other locations for remote jobs? Thanks for the information. Which is probably what I will do until I can get a better shop and an integrated spray room built. Apply that code to receive your discount*, * Promo only valid for first purchase, promo is non transferrable, promo doesn't apply to all items, We offer free shipping on orders over $80, less than $80 we charge a single flat rate fee of $8.50. This will cause the turbine motor to run hot. The Mini-Mite series is a good compromise between the entry-level turbines and professional-use turbines. For example, an HVLP turbine systems application results in less overspray and bounce-back, as paint and finish particles are less likely to rebound into the air.

I understand the advantage of the warm air (no condensation) supplied by a turbine, but I have also heard that turbines don't last very long.

In-depth articles, up-close photography, and detailed illustrations. Answer: Question: How to Fix a Round Spray Pattern on your Apollo Spray Gun. Works great but wasn't cheap.

Guaranteed you'll never be able to buy anything quite like it from any commercial source. As a subscriber you will receive the following perks: - Advanced notice of deals and promotions, - Helpful content on equipment use, selection, and more. Apollo TrueHVLP Conversion Spray Guns work off compressed air or any make of air turbine system. Lots of good information on HVLP. So, in order for higher viscosity materials to be applied properly, they must be diluted.

May we suggest that you look at the TurboPro models if you want to be able to spray auto paint in addition to the plastic dip.

If you will be painting in a stationary shop, want to have diversity with the spray gun technology you will use, or want to be able to support more than a single painter then a HVLP Spray Gun and Compressor is ideal. But being that I've never used an HVLP sprayer, how hard would it be to get the hang of it? In fact, the 5100 series gun will instantly convert to run off any make turbine system as well. Apollo custom matches each turbine size with the correct size air hose. A small case does not provide sufficient air circulation. The TurboPro systems have been specifically designed for body shop use and are capable of spraying the auto materials much better than the ECO or any other standard turbine system. These units are often quite small with single gun kits normally being about the size of a suitcase. Fuji offers different tip sizes to spray a wide range of finishes and paints. They are measured by the width of the rod in millimeters (mm). It doesn't have as many adjustable features as the T-series, but it does have the same non-bleed spray cap, and a stainless steel nozzle and needle. At the same time, many finishers who have sprayed with conventional type spray guns are more comfortable with a non-bleeder style spray gun. All air ports and passageways throughout the gun are 1/2 inch or larger. We have created these special content collections organized to give you a deep dive into a range of topics that matter. There are a number of factors to consider when trying to compare different brands and models. Turbine HVLP Paint Gun. However, Emails are serviced by Constant Contact, Yes, all the ECO systems will spray Plasti Dip. What this has meant is that paint gun companies have been working to make it easier for you to paint. You will simply need a quick connect to thread into the turbine handle coupler and you will be set for compressed air. The unique design of the A5100 series spray guns (patent #5279461 and #5429307) require less air pressure and cfm (7 cfm @ 45 psi) than other HVLP air conversion spray guns, thus enabling them to run off a small 3 hp air compressor or larger.

Looking for a recommendation whether to buy a dedicated turbine HVLP system, or upgrade my compressor. Otherwise you will be constantly waiting for your air pressure to come back up. I think the main reason to get a turbine unit is portability.

A couple of side benefits is that overspray is kept to a minimum with HVLP spray guns, which saves paint. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. For the DIYer, the extra power provides the necessary pressure to spray higher viscosity primers and heavier enamels. If it were me I'd go for the larger compresser. This is where our TurboPro systems are nice as they are completely adjustable and designed to spray the clear coats with normal thinning. This model also has a Throttle back control which enables higher pressures than the ECO systems. Considered the quietest operating turbine on the market today, the Fuji Q-Platinum was designed for use in professional automotive shops.

Would you recommend the turbo over the eco series. Although, I agree that brushing on a water based clear coat finish can be done, it seems that spraying would be more efficient for this many doors. "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts.". Apollos 7500 series non-bleeder spray gun has received two awards as best new HVLP spray gun in 2007. large air passage ways. I am getting good at replacing the motors; it takes about 1.5 hrs. (Apollo xx25 series turbines are all fitted with an appropriate air relief valve. You can see more of the TurboPro systems on our website at www.TurboProHVLP.com. Has plasti dip been tested effectively out of the eco 5 and if so what would be the recommended settings. I am on my second motor in the past six months. I read the rest of the posts on this issue, so now here is my response. To initiate a return you can contact us via phone and we can coordinate the return with you. Here's a link that you may enjoy: http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/ashland/lit.htm. Many HVLP guns are actually modified conventional spray guns. The rest of my family loved it. I have many fond memories of that entire area. Spray control, atomization and speed are identical to the finest conventional spray guns; PLUS you have all the benefits of TrueHVLP. Apollo air hoses have an internal spiral helix to maintain shape and full air flow. Im thinking that Im going to have to spend $200-$300, at least, to get a decent, larger compressor. For traditional automotive paints you will definitely need a more powerful turbine. Not all products qualify for free shipping. All Apollo turbine sprayers are manufactured with at least two independent air filters and louvered vents on two sides. For clear coats, a smaller tip size will give better results. Some people say HVLP turbine-based systems are great, some favor HVLP guns run by a compressor.

Is the only difference between the 7500c conversion gun and the 7500gto the adapter for the compressor? These are very efficient, portable guns. They say it will spray clears, but you will have to reduce them way beyond what the manufactures recommend. Now questions arise about the best type of gun, tips, caps, and needles, thinning, conditioning, extending, etc. The grain is virtually identical to Cherry with the pitch pockets and everything,but the coloration is lilted more towards the color of the fruit. All times are GMT-5. Most HVLP conversion spray guns consume large amounts of air and can require a large (5 horse power or larger) dedicated compressor to provide enough air to run them. I've definitely learned to ask questions, especially before spending $$$. I remember that too. The result is clean dry air to your spray gun. Our ECO-3 should do the job nicely. It's a beautiful park! Please ask us to send you a copy of our independent laboratory tests. Also a turbine paint system usually produces very little oil/water in the system because it isnt piston-powered. If you still decide that a turbine unit fits your needs better, this article is a good test on models that are reasonably priced (under $500). Hose length can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. One thing that comes with a turbine is warm air. Each has their advantages and drawbacks, and knowing which one to use can improve your operations and save you both time and money. Specs rate it for 6.5 CFM @ 40psi. March 13, 2000. Do air conversion HVLP spray guns work as well as HVLP turbine spray guns? The lower pressure to spray equates to less over spray and paint usage/waste. Once you venture into more viscous material, wish to cover larger surfaces, and/or use solvent-based material circumstances become more complicated and less absolute, i.e., if spraying were ever scientific, it then becomes more of an art, where trial and error is the rule. Get complete site access to video workshops, digital plans library, online archive, and more, plus the print magazine. We fully guarantee our spray guns for two years. Commenting has been disabled. I don't know if you've ever seen Peach wood and neither have I. Are Apollo TrueHVLP spray guns as good as conventional spray guns? We decided to cover the pros and cons of both an air compressor-style paint gun and a turbine HVLP paint gun system. This means you can spray virtually all sprayable coatings, including waterborne, latex and adhesives. Yes,the ECO-5 can spray dip, base and most clears.

Without a formal introduction, you've slipped into spray gun decisions.

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