delta 50-760 dust collector upgrade

Instead of cyclone, I went for a Grizzly with a 1 micron filter. By adding a few boards to the bottom of the cart you can raise the trash can with lid flush to the intake of the dust collector. Doing this you will see that only small amounts of dust end up in the plastic bag. If it works as good as it looks, you're in business. I look forward to my upcoming projects and will let you know how this new system works in the real world.

-- Don, Silver City, If you always do what what you always did, youll always get what you always got. I adhered the paper templates and made my cuts with a Dremel (http://www.dremelnewsroom.com) rotary tool and spiral bit. Upgrade your machine ports to 5 inch so they match. | Do Not Sell My Data Display as a link instead, The problem comes when I dont empty the first barrel in a timely fashion! Manage Consent. Delta really appears to have done an excellent job with the 50-760, building an apparently robust dust collector that assembles easily and quickly. I then made a shelf of melamine coated hardboard and screwed that to the new bracket and the outside edge of the cart. lumberjocks While the unit came with a 1 micron filter bag, I wanted to maximize filtration as well as air flow through the filter media. Im interested.

Happened to me for the first time the other day, thoiught I could squeeze just a few more operations before emptying lesson learned! You may want to do some on-line research for a better explanation of how this works. The Thein Baffle captures almost all material. The reason they didn't do as well as the competition was because they were noisier and let more fine dust back out. Be sure to take into consideration the shoulders on these components and the rounded edge of the barrel. Also, is it your opinion that the inlet port to the separator needs to be centered on the lid? Latest Projects | The entire process did not take very long at all, maybe around 2 to 3 hours total, including the initial assembly of the dust collector. Paste as plain text instead, The size is perfect for this cart! And, minimize the times I have to empty the plastic debris bag.

I found that the first rod should be one holding the extended portion of the baffle in position. We may receive a commission from sales referred by our links; however, we have carefully selected these products for their usefulness and quality. With the filter securely attached, I next mounted a collection bag that had been supplied by Delta. These are there to act as stops for the spring-type metal bands that Delta included for securing their filter bag to the inside of this unit. I also purchased the Rockler (http://www.rockler.com) Dust Rite Components (#34367) and cut off the elbow on one of the components. The incoming debris rides on an extended portion of this baffle, then drops through an opening and down into the barrel where it cant escape. HTH. If you find a cyclone in that price let me know! Good lookin' upgrade to the 50-760 I may steel that idea chopnhack. You can read my decision process at woodintosawdust.wordpress.com. Works perfectly. I was very pleased with the information and timely responses I received from Wynn Environmental, whether it was a phone call or an email, I always got my questions answered. CONTACT US, 2004-2022 - Mike's Wood & Metal Tools Then when I went to look for a place to buy it, I couldn't really find it anywhere, and on Amazon it was $450!

Delta also includes a traditional metal band and clasp system that fits on the outside of the flange. This thing is too bulky to move so my loss, your gain.

Wow great blog Jerry!

And why would you need to remove the rubber gasket? You will see that I incorporated many of his ideas into my build. Prior to mounting the filter permanently this way, I placed some gasket material just to the inside edge of the existing gasket material that had been applied by Wynn Environmental. Uses ordinary heavy duty trash bags to collect the dust. I had pretty much made up my mind, when I noticed that all of the tests were in 2005 or so. Clear editor.

I agree that the cyclones seem like a good idea, but I haven't seen any (~1.5HP) anywhere near the ~$400 price point (they seem to be all over $900). Thanks to Dick and Rick Wynn for running a class operation with quality products and for their excellent customer support. Asking $275. also interested if Mitch's interest falls through. Upload or insert images from URL. Powered by Invision Community. When you take the rubber gasket out of the PlumbQwik P3000-44, you are left with metal-to-metal (at the collector) and metal-to-plastic (at the converter) connections. Congrats on a brilliant design. Total cost of this conversion was around $275. I purchased the drum (#4319T665) through McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com). I have a very small shop and I couldnt move the dust collection system (dcs) where it would be out of the way. Delta machinery strongly recommends that this product not be modified and/or used for any application other than for. I picked up a 30 gallon. A test of the fit of the 35A filter onto the flange showed that the filter could be gently worked onto the flange and that the gasket material would snugly hold the filter centered on the flange. For Sale - Festool Kapex KS 120 REB and UG-KA-Set Kapex Portable Stand W/ Extensions, True Trac, Rail and Skill Saw with adapter plate $95. I was able to find this dimension by following the instructions I found in this You Tube video: I mounted the baffle to the barrel lid with 1/2 threaded rod. I bought mine new, and I paid about 450 cdn. One option you could look at is getting a less expensive bag unit (such as the harbor freight 2hp) and adding an aftermarket filter (such as the Wynn). | Upgraded mine recently , Wynn filter, Thein Baffle. You are using an out of date browser. I then cut the baffle to create an opening for the debris to fall through. Add a Thien baffle to the chip separator to make it as efficient as possible. | Copyright I need to empty it before it gets up to the Thien baffle, otherwise it goes right into the bag. I am still very pleased with this set-up and have no thoughts of replacing it. This cut through the lid easily and gave me fairly smooth opening. It an article or two back. Ive read where others have used foam insulation to make a seal, but knowing how well this gasket fits Id strongly recommend buying it. *If you are unable to login and cannot reset your password, the fastest way to contact us is by creating a temporary account and sending a pm to the sysadmin account. I could not find a union to connect the two 5 pieces together. The new filter also improves the air quality in my shop as it filters down to 0.5 microns compared to the 1 micron of the bag filter. I then mounted the filter (#35A274BLOL) onto the dcs and attached it with the provided turnbuckles. When I re-examined the inside of the unit, I noticed that Delta had built in a retaining ring or ridge just inside of both the top and bottom flanges. I had to find a way to mate the 5 port to the Rockler 5 to 4 converter. daviddoria, How is the lid attached to the bin? Terms of Service

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Fantastic write up Jerry! Make sure you swap out the 4 inch hose for a 5 inch hose. Or is there a new winner of more recent tool tests/comparisons that I just didn't find? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. | Privacy Policy Just remember to empty the barrel and not overfill it. Are those air tight? LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user. Hey Dave, I recently read a review from one of the mags about the various dc's and the harbor freight and grizzly didn't fair as well. I think it turned out great and Im very glad I did it! Pasted as rich text. For additional information on the Thien baffle check out this site: http://www.jpthien.com/cy.htm Heres how I constructed mine: I used 1/4 hardboard and cut a disc the size of the inside of the barrel. I replaced the filter bag with a Wynn 10 MERV filter for greater efficiency and safety. ", Dust Collector Upgrade, Delta 50-760, SDD, (This post was last modified: 10-28-2021, 06:41 AM by, "Well, my time of not taking you seriously is coming to a middle. It's a bit loud, but it does an excellent job. My latest and hopefully final upgrade to my Delta 50-760 dust collector. The baffle design is from J. Thien, some good reading at his site. Again, this is the outer diameter of the flanges. Copyright 2021 The Wood Whisperer, Inc. I took out the rubber insert and the stainless steel connector then fit perfectly between the two 5 parts. I'm in the market for a small dust collector (just to handle a table saw and a router table). The nasal spectrometer didnt even sniffle. I have this nagging cough and I think I know where it is coming from. The other two supports are then easier to properly position. It is a 1.5 HP unit with an 11.5 inch fan blade. The most difficult of this build is to have the outlet of the elbow exit at the very beginning of the extended portion of the baffle, while keeping the extended portion of the baffle as close to the inside of the barrel as possible.

I noticed that there was a lot of swirling going with my setup, so I put a vertical baffle below the thien, and it cut down the swirling to some degree. Its a PlumbQwik P3000-44. I recently purchased a Delta 50-760 dust collector. My research concluded that the other port (going into the DC fan) should be centered (as much as practical) for best efficiency. As it turns out, it was a very straightforward process. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. Even I can follow along!Thanks-. Latest Blog Entries | Remove the cloth bag filter and replace it with a Wynn Environmental filter. Add a chip separator to keep the vast majority of debris in this collector and keep it from hitting the filter. I put a finishing nail through the center of the baffle so I could lower it into the drum. With the lid on, I reached through the center hole and again grabbed the nail pulling the baffle into position. Another thing to keep in mind is that you could find a used dc from a higher quality manufacturer and convert it to a 2 stage system. Phone: 215-442-9443 Once I had the 35A filter secured to the base unit with the three turnbuckles, I tightened each so that they were very snug and held the filter firmly to the dust collector. jun 2,. First I removed the cloth bag filter and the plastic debris bag. There is only one 5 port and that is shown in the last still photo of the group (the completed conversion). I'm in the market for a small dust collector (just to handle a table saw and a router table). It is directly below the motor. I have the 50-760 and I think it does a great job, but at that price point you are smart to look for more recent reviews. This means that the raised outer edge of the dust collector flange should snugly fit within the gasket mounted onto the filter. The dust collector is sold pending pickup this weekend. Mike's Wood & Metal Tools352 E Yale LoopIrvine, CA 92614, E-mail: mike@mikestools.comFax: 714.558.8737, QUESTIONS?

We are currently running 5-7 business days behind in shipping the 35 Series filters. And, the straps with worm-screws make for a very secure connection. Yes, the bin was a bit of a trade off. Not sure where the second 5 port you describe above comes into play. 714-856-7456, TELEPHONE HOURS: It's also a pretty capable unit so I'm sure the whole supply/demand factor comes into play. The three turnbuckles supplied with the Wynn conversion kit turned out to be the correct length to fit between the lower inner lip on the inside of the 35A filter and the ridges built into the mounting flanges. Mine was on sale at the Rockler store I found it on a flier I got in the mail they had one left, and held it for me over the phone, they were selling like hot cakes. does the dust ever settle at the bottom when the first barrel gets fairly full? Your previous content has been restored. This last photo shows the completed conversion. Since the article was written, I've received the replacement part and like the DC very much. Replacing the filter bag with a filter and adding a chip collector with Thien baffle. Id never even heard of this until I started doing my research! You cannot paste images directly. The width of the cut is 1 1/8th. You can post now and register later. 211 Camars Drive What's you favorite honing guide, that precisely and repeatably hones square? The Delta is equipped with a 1.5 hp motor and is rated at 1200 cmf.

I wanted to mount the elbow as close to the edge of the barrel as possible and the other component as close to the center as possible. Im thinking Id like more chip collection area. Is there a reason why the price would have gone up? After reading several reviews, it looked like the Delta 50-760 came out on top of most tests, and it seemed to be in the $300-$350 range. Just a press fit? Having these ridges built into the mounting flanges turned out to be another big plus for retrofitting the Delta 50-760 with a Wynn filter. Here is what mine looks like, its a Delta 50-720 converted. Instructions can be found on the Wynn site (http://wynnenv.com/delta-50-760/), with thanks to David T. For the separator, I chose a 15 gallon plastic barrel, as suggested by Fong, the Tool Tutor, on a You Tube video.

The flat bottom of the filter was firmly seated against the top of the flange. I have this collector and I really like it.

The swirling is not really a problem. After talking with Wynn Environmental on the phone, I purchased their 35A274BLOL conversion kit and assumed that I would be able to figure out some way to mount this filter onto the new Delta dust collector. These bands fit very snugly into these areas to hold the filter bag and can be an option for mounting the collection bag. I started by screwing on a piece of angle iron to the middle support of the cart. Don't know how to contact you. SAT: 10AM - 2PM PST I picked up a 30 gallon. I took his advice on the size of the barrel and to that I added a Thien baffle. By taking out the rubber gasket you are left with a union that will allow you to connect the two 5 pieces together. Thats where the PlumbQwik P3000-44 comes in. When I see new stuff in the bottom bag I empty the can. You do need some way to seal the filter to the dcs. I need to do the same. Wynn Environmental has been getting very positive reviews for their product line of filters as applied to woodworking. How to fix a messed up table-top panel? DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ.

Continuing to fill the barrel and getting too close to the baffle will defeat the baffle and not allow it to filter-out the chips. This material just had to fill any minor void that may exist between the bottom of the filter and the upper edge of the mounting flange. It was difficult to remove and once removed debris from up in the cloth bag would fall to the floor. This latter method is what I decided to go with to secure the collection bag. I purchased the ETG-55 gasket through Wynn Environmental (http://wynnenv.com) and it slid in place easily after I trimmed it to size with a tin snips, as they had instructed. While I would love to have a cyclone, I am only a weekend woodworker and have limited space (and funding) so I bought this unit based upon the positive reviews that I was able to find on the internet and in recent publications. and I always tell them "Sweeping. I love my 50-760 I paid in the $300 range 2-3 yrs ago for $450 I think I would shop around, maybe graigslist or Grizzly good luck. It just so happens that the inner diameter of the gasket attached to the 35A274BLOL filter is approximately 15-3/4 inches. Once I had the Wynn filter seated squarely on the mounting flange, and with the foam forming a seal at this contact area, I had to next figure out how to securely fasten the filter to the body of the dust collector. Well done. Can you suggest any?

The cloth bag filter sat so high that it would hit duct work in my shop. -- Jerry, Johnson Creek, WI "If it was meant to be different it would be.". Nice video blog of what you did on your Delta DC.

This is essential to allow the debris to enter into the airstream and swirl onto the baffle before falling into the barrel. With my other hand I marked the lid and baffle for the first threaded rod. Here are some supplies and tools we find essential in our everyday work around the shop. By subscribing to the RSS feed you will be notified when new entries are posted on this blog. I recently went through a similar situation that you are experiencing.

It may not display this or other websites correctly. I also didnt like emptying the plastic debris bag. These flange openings (top and bottom) are the same since the unit can be assembled with the motor on top and the intake from the bottom OR with the intake facing upwards and the motor in a downward position. I ended up using a high density foam weather stripping. Then just screw on your Dust Rite components. I am in the process of making one of these and just do not want to do it twice! ", (This post was last modified: 05-08-2019, 07:41 PM by. 2022 Verticalscope Inc. All Rights Reserved. On the Delta 50-760, the outer diameter of the flange openings, where the filter media attaches and where the bag attaches, measure 15-3/4 inches. You can see the separator in action in this video. The idea is to make the chip separator more efficient. The Dust Rite kit includes two self-adhesive discs for use as templates when cutting holes into the drum cover. One conversion that intrigued me was from Fong the Tool Tutor, and his You Tube video is included here. Upon receiving the filter (both in a timely manner and in excellent condition) and having purchased the Delta 50-760, I began to examine how to merge the two. Dust collector is sold. You can often get this collector on kijiji here in Canada, which is like our Craigslist. I bought a 4 to 5 adaptor (TAW1027) from Rockler, but how to connect the two 5 pieces? In Fongs original video the two ports on the separator are opposite each other on either side. Has anything changed in 8 years? There is a small hole where the support arm for the original Delta filter bag was inserted - this hole is closed off with tape. I'm afraid I can only suggest keeping your eye on Craigslist, or buying a less expensive unit and putting a better filter on it (IMO one of the best parts of the Delta is the 1micron bag - many other units have 30micron bags). The way I positioned mine has allowed for easy access to undo the connections to empty the barrel. In this blog I will give you a detailed description of how i put my system together and hopefully it will help you in your conversion. How long did you have to stay away from woodworking to manufacture this beast? I did that some years back and have been relatively satisfied with it. You must log in or register to reply here. I found a connector at my local home improvement store. I just picked up a used 50-760 and have been looking for ideas on how to set it up with Wynn filter and either a cyclone or a Thein baffle. April 20, 2013 in General Woodworking Talk. |PRIVACY POLICY I am not in the market for a new one, but it seems like the market has shifted towards cyclonic collectors, as opposed to the bag types. These components simply screw into each other, there is no need to drill holes for individual mounting screws. I would have liked more capacity but that would mean going taller and I was trying to keep it as short and compact as possible. Thank you for your help. Since completing this project, I have taken a strip of electrical tape and used it to make a line on the barrel to show when the debris is nearing the baffle so I know its time to empty.

Anyone know where to get a 50-760? Warwick, PA 18974 An air straightener eliminates the problem and improves the air flow.

I also ended-up using spring-loaded clamps to really ease the connection/disconnection and now its a breeze!

You get one chance to cut this right! I did not have any problem making a good seal, but you could always add some self-fusing if you had a concern. By The added flow area should add some CFM to the unit and the added filtration should help minimize the harmful dust generated from woodworking in my garage workshop. MON-FRI: 10AM - 5PM I searched out all of the information I could find on making dcs conversions. Your link has been automatically embedded.

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