Come join the discussion about performance, horsepower, modifications, troubleshooting, racing, and more! What lower control arms, if any, do I need to use to be able to remove the quad shock on a 93 mustang? Eric. Dusting off this old but good collection of quotes: unless there is an elimination of the factory uppers due to the addition of a torque arm or panhard bar the quads should stay. its what works,i have all solid bushing made from machine shop.i havent had wheelhop yet,but it sure isnt like using rubbers either. Were changing our phone hours to 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM Pacific Time (Monday-Friday, excluding holidays) so we have more time to process orders and get them out to you. I don't know if I've seen a 7.5inch rear end that has them. 245's were pretty close to rubbing. I bought all brand my stuff for my 2000 and found out when i got around to putting them on.my car didnt even have quad shocks on it, but gts did. When you do need quad shocks, these gas-pressurized Bilstein units are the best available. I have the foxbody axle housing, so I'm set on the at end. I'm trying to track down the mount that attaches to the frame. I noticed that when i installed a set of steeda upper and lowers I experiened alot of wheel hop after removing my quads. So just trying to cover my bases ahead of time, It's the last thing on the list I need to find.

- '92 5-sp LX coupe, TKO, 3.55s, pulleys, Al DS, 1-5/8 shorties, Magnaflow spun metallic cats, 2.5 Dynomax VT's, Pro5.0 w/ Steeda Comfort Pro, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPagription=Shock+Absorber+-+NAPA+Response+-+Rear, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Here are pictures from the manual and as installed on my car with the Koni coil over. I removed the quad shocks as they were completely worn out, I needed space for the nitto555 275 wide tires. Look into some maximum motorsport lower control arms with the spherical bushing to prevent bind. Removal does depend upon the total rear suspension package; it is an experiment. Every car I've ever dealt with that hopped like mad, these things cured it. :good: A forum community dedicated to Ford Mustang owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, builds, modifications, reviews, engine swaps, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Outside of Ford, none. I already have Megabite UCA and LCA. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The frame should have the holes but I don't know if the axle has a spot for them. morenpower helps keep wheel speed up and reduces hop. So I'm still acquiring parts from a variety of sources instead of a single donor. I didn't even know lower control arms/lift bars go where the quad shocks are (supposed to). They aren't called quad shocks that the store. FFR 4440, V-8, 4BBL, Dual Exhaust, Manual Trans, P/S, WSW, Htr, Radio Delete, I have a set somewhere in the garage if you need them still let me know.

Tech A pair of rear horizontally mounted shocks was part of what Ford called the "Quadra-Shock rear suspension system". For the record, wheel hop destroys the back end of the car. The good thing is that, if you can't find one, it would be easy to bend up from some 1/8x1.5 inch flat steel. Add me to the list - I put quad shocks back on my car last year after 15 years. You will still need the springs. You dont need quad shocks, get stiffer springs and you should be fine. i.e., expect shipping time to lengthen. Some people complain about wheel hop on launches when they're on sticky tires without quadshocks. I had to modify the mount to move it rearward to gain clearance between the quad shock and the coil over. In the mustang community in my area everybody hates them and takes them off because they dont do anything. There's a pretty good chance however you dont have a quad shock. I had baad wheelhop with FRPP HD uppers/no quads. Has anyone done this? Just had to figure out the non-Ford term is an axle damper. Such a bunch of crap "advice" these threads always bring up, and frankly it's disheartening to see people who should know better by now keep spewing it. What needs to be done to the suspension to remove them? I really appreciate the info, guys. The increased road noise is do to the solid steel bushing inserts. Thanks! Aftermarket rear control arms are so cheap for fox bodies. New Quads were a great improvement on my car. I replaced my quads with Koni ones that I found on E-bay cheap and the wheel hop went away. a spherical rod end is not a solid bushing. JavaScript is disabled. I don't quite understand, but oh well. Based on reading and comments and forum searches it sounds like coil overs are at a minimum if staying with the 4 link and those have some clearance issues with quad shocks, but I suppose that's half the fun of building a car, solving these issues. Is there a source for a conversion kit, or plans, or am I fooling myself about the wisdom of this course? UMI says that in the description of the lift bars, in the link you posted. i was one of the victims of the internet myth that when aftermarket control arms are added the quads should go. Converting a 4 link to 3 link. scuse me for being ignerent but what's a quad shock? James, Take them off and put them in the trash. 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-. Retrofit later is messy with all the sheet metal cutting, grinding and drilling. But I can't seem to find the mounts, are these actually something separate from the rear end that you can buy, or do I have to go in search of an actual fox body donor to get them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. FREE AND FAST SHIPPING. i was one of the victims of the internet myth that when aftermarket control arms are added the quads should go. That's it, What controls wheel hop? Also, what are some ways to get rid of your quads, what are some available kits, how rig it up without a kit if possible, etc. PM me with your address if interested. 's in one thread :shrug: I took mine off when I put my 275's on.

I had a 90 mustang I built a 408 for many years ago that sixtied as quick as 1.31 on the motor and had them removed, but, I also had Southside Machine Lift barsSo, it's OK to get rid of them without any aftermarket suspension parts? I'm going off of the Donor parts sheet in the manual FF sent me and it calls it out as something from the donor. Took the quad shocks off and the car had major wheel hop issues. I know a lot of folks say you don't need them BUT, they don't hurt and they will help eliminate a potential annoying condition. I built a 420 ci SBF for a friend and I would like to get his pile of junk out of my garage? But, apparently when a person posts the OP should have searched before he/she posted, because the topic has already been beat to crap, said person becomes a troll. Last thing is how wide of a tire can I fit once I get rid of them. If there isn't a substantial amount of resistance, they are bad. Quad Shock, 1985-2004 solid-axle V8 Mustang axle damper (BUY 2 FOR EACH CAR). You must log in or register to reply here. Put the shocks back on and no wheel hop at all. There is nothing wrong with lift bars other than a plethora of misinformation about them. I ditched the quads with my old suspension set up, then added fresh ones back to help the wheel hop. Do yourself a big favor, get ride of the 4 link and go to the 3 link. However the car does bite hard and traction is wonderful until the tires give. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Installation of the MM Torque-arm eliminates the axle wind-up that causes wheel hop. I did and added the quad shocks which fixed the condition. You may find a donor you don't have to take home. There have been several posts recently on this same subject. I tossed out my quad shocks months ago and I don't miss them. You do not want solid bushings anywhere in the rear suspension. Were a small company and we regret our website isnt fancy enough to inform you of back orders when you buy something. Use some good aftermarket lower control arms like the. In the end it all depends on your setup but if you experience wheel hop you know what to do. I may try and reinstall the quad shocks after reading this. What is the largest tire I can fit on the back of a fox body with the quad shocks? Then you dont have to worry about fliping them to wider rims and tires. If the OP put a adjustable upper control arm on and set the pinion angle correctly then not only would quads not be needed, wheel hop would be gone. My goal for the build is as much building the car as it is learning about each section and how it all works together. The considerable amount of deflection allowed by the eight stock rubber rear control arm bushings of the Mustang four-link let the axle wind up, and then rotate back, in a cyclic manner. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2020 GT500 Magnetic metail, with white and lime green stripes.

It may not display this or other websites correctly. Okay so ive been looking to upgrade my whole suspension because its got almost 150,000 miles on it and most of it is stock. Thanks for all the insight everyone. Okay so if i replace just the lower control arm i need to keep my quad shock and maybe upgrade it as well, but if i go ahead and replace both of them i can get rid of the quad shock? So the question now is, since I don't have a specific donor car, does anyone know what the part number is for the mount and where I can find it. But youre saying that i can just completely get rid of them without anything else and it will be fine, it just wont hook as good as it would with a kit. OP, you should have searched first. Removed mine but put in boxed lowers BBK iirc.

FREE RETURNS. Upgrading your quad shocks while you're at it wont hurt, considering you're already upgrading everything else. I ordered the Base Kit with the Mustang OEM 4-link. lol. OK a buddy was driving my car the other day and he started doing a burnout and the car was wheel hopping a little bit. What rear suspension are you planning? No wheel hop. I had completely forgotten about that mount at the frame end. As long as you have the 4-link style rear end and it has ANY bushing deflection, which it will unless every mounting point is a heim joint, then you have the possibility of wheelhop under acceleration. View cart for details. It is only used with the donor 4 link suspension. I might have a set next week. It didn't take long for me to figure out that I have no quad shocks! You will thank yourself later when you don't have wheel hop issues. Before buying your new quad shocks make sure your actually has them. If one were to go to solid bushings, IE, spherical rod ends, then pinion angle can be set to 0* as the differential housing is not rotating. Exactly the reason I kept mine, MFE knows his stuff and won't steer you wrong. JavaScript is disabled. We discuss MK4, GTM, 818, Type 65 coupe, roadsters, and more! No idea on the part number. They make noise when turning. You can pick up non adjustable uppers and lowers for $140 from LMR. Quad shocks were installed to reduce the axle wind-up that causes wheel hop. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, 87-93 Ford Mustang 8.8 Axle Quad Shock Brackets Quadrant Shocks Mount Factory OE | eBay, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I have Granatelli/JD's performance arms and I had terrible wheel hop last time at the strip. This assumes the upper and lower control arm torque boxes are in good shape. I just had southsides, eibach drag springs and a couple of airbags and dat bitch would hook! I replaced my quads with Koni ones that I found on E-bay cheap and the wheel hop went away. I removed mine. I wouldnt reccomend removing them. \)-;) pYqER.\)_;eJK@Qzu{jv'vcsZDK0l%_.wPi%^D9L'g[tx#V"R$pI!QK\ % .6>xMClbn'Q$a{mZV'oj6q?Ke /:o89} Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. You are using an out of date browser. Glad I'm not the only one [who got wheelhop without the quads]. Stock control arms. every parts store in the country has them, I know for a fact that Napa sells them because I just bought a set 2 months ago.

I've been able to find the quad shocks on rockauto easy enough. It works for some, and it doesn't work for others. So, I finally decided to look into figuring out why my rear suspension is so stiff. Leave the uppers are they are. Mk 4 Base 7721, 331, Holley Sniper EFI, T5, 355 traction lock, rear disc, heater, wipers, foot well vents, whitby soft top, dropped trunk floor and more.

Torque reaction during acceleration makes the axle housing rotate in the direction of raising the forward (pinion side) of the axle housing. You can see them here. I had really bad wheelhop just in street driving. 1994 GT. Most commonly called "quad shocks", these are also known as "axle dampers", "kicker shocks", and "kickers". This is what you do remove the quad shocks and throw them in the garbage. They did this by damping out the axle's tendency to rotate during acceleration. No question. There is truth to both sides of the argument.

If you get rid of the rubber parts you can get rid of the quad shocks usually, Thanks for the repliesall we can do is take them off and try it outIt's not like I am trying to run fours with this car I am building for a friend. I also like that you have (arguably) the best lower control arms on the market, clearly visible with your quad shocks installed. Remove all rotation of the differential and you remove wheel hop. Not sure pops and one of his friends helped me out here) and I experience slight wheel hop. Well I found a track link kit from advanced suspension for $390. ---------- Post added at 01:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:01 PM ----------, ---------- Post added at 01:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:12 PM ----------, 2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.cjponyparts.com/kyb-quad-shock-gas-a-just-8-8inch-1979-2004/p/KYB20/, http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/KYB-KG4521/84-04-Mustang-Kyb-Gas-A-Just-Rear-Quad-Shock, http://www.americanmuscle.com/kyb-gas-quadshock-9404.html, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I've got Steeda uppers & lowers. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. Set pinion angle at (1.5*? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I replaced control arms and the wheel hop stayed the same. Come join the discussion about racing, builds, pro mods, hot rods, events, turbos, nitrous, superchargers, and more! Try the "search" feature and you will find a ton of information. UPS Shipping Times As of March 24, UPS no longer guarantees the shipping time for any shipment. All Ford Mustangs | Model Specific Forums, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, 79-98 Mustang Elite Chrome Moly Urethane Control Arm Suspension Kit, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Under acceleration, the pinion gear tries to climb the ring gear, because it can not, the forces rotate the front of the differential upward until the limit of the defection in the control arm bushing is reached, at that point the differential snaps back downward resulting in the dreaded wheel hop. Thanks in advance for input. okay thanks from both of yall, ive also been debating on what lowering springs to get as well. JavaScript is disabled. i think mine are bad and cant find new ones.

I haven't been to the track in forever so I don't care. Wheel hop is caused by differential housing rotation. If you are spending money trying to get a complete 4-link assembled, consider the 3-link upgrade as another path. 408 Windsor, A5 transmission, 3:73's, Quick Fuel 750, Aspiring drag strip newb, "Built not bought"! But I can't hear it over my 10 series. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Well at least I can speak from first hand experience. So now i have a set of new kyb quad shocks just sitting around but idk if 98s had them or not. Sorry about so many ? New Quads were a great improvement on my car. Wheel hop can become violent enough to cause parts breakage. THIS HAD BEEN COVERED A BUNCH OF TIMES! With a solid bushing or rod end installed the obvious trade off is more noise transmitted into the chassis and the cost of replacement as the rod ends would have a much higher rate of wear. ever. My 88 GT had Steeda Aluminum LCA's, stock uppers and wheelhopped bad enough to break one of the parking lights without quads, with quads it was smooth. But I still get some fishtailing when I drive irresponsibly--HA, so I just bought a set of Gabriel quads to replace my well-worn (108K miles) stockers---they DO make a difference. The axle end mount is a permanent welded on part of the axle housing. Ive been pricing everything and i came across quad shocks on american muscle. 100% AUTHENTIC! Like I said, I have had mine (original Southside Lift Bars) on my car for over 10 years and they have performed flawlessly with no noticeable noise or difficulties in cornering and handling. Excludes roll bars, Quad Shock, 1986-2004 solid-axle V8 Mustang axle damper, each (24-021494), MM Torque-arm eliminates the axle wind-up. Put in quads, and the wheel hop was gone. Installation of most aftermarket rear lower control arms will usually eliminate enough of the deflection to allow removal of the quad shocks. lol. You are using an out of date browser. Put in quads, and the wheel hop was gone. I was one of these people that bought into the internet hype of not needing quads once I got control arms. increasing my carbon foot print one gallon at a time, Been out of the game since 2011.. looking to get back in in 2019, Thanks guys this was really helpfull.

In my opinion the 3-link is a big improvement for these cars. JavaScript is disabled. Replace them. A forum community dedicated to Ford Mustang owners and enthusiasts. Many of our suppliers shut down for a time, and like us are operating with reduced manpower. 3 link greatly improves the ride and handling. Are you planning to use the Mustang rear springs with the FFR spring perch mounts? Mine is a street car and my best 60' has been 1.61 with street tires which is nothing to brag about. I had baad wheelhop with FRPP HD uppers/no quads. Try your closest auto wreckers. You can box the stock lowers cheap and be fine as well. If you are, I have a set of mounts, modified with a clamping system to stop the spring from working loose and lowering your ride height that you can have. They say the lift bars are recommended for drag and race applications, which I don't really do. On earlier IRS builds utilizing the T Bird knuckles unless you converted to urethane bushings you could experience wheel hop with big HP. 60' was 1.81 when I had the quad shocks, dropped to 2.05+ with them off. Ford only installed them as a bandaid to prevent wheel hop because the bushings on the stock control arms are so sh##e. Come join the discussion about performance, production numbers, VIN decoders, modifications, troubleshooting, power adders, DIY tutorials, and more! I had really bad wheelhop just in street driving. HI FFfriends, Im considering converting my completed MkIII 4-link to a 3-link to improve handling for autoX and road courses. You can probably find a good used MAC set for $100 on different mustang forums. Horsepower controls wheel hop. I removed my quads when I replaced 6 of the 8 bushings in the rear with poly bushings and had to reinstall them because of the wheelhop. I replaced control arms and the wheel hop stayed the same. Yes I still have a 4-link rear end but the Edelbrock uppers and MM lowers on my Stang have 3-piece urethane bushings on one end and spherical bearings (heim joints) on the other. Traction got much better too. I'd try to find you some lower control arms though. *48 state deliveries only. If you have decent aftermarket lower control arms, you can delete the quad shocks altogether. If anything the road/highway handling is improved. - Bilstein B6 Quad Shock 36mm Monotube Shock Absorber for 87-04 Ford Mustang, - KYB 2PCS Set Rear KYB Quad Shock Axle Shaft Dampers For Ford Mustang Mercury, - KYB Gas-A-Just Quad Shock for Ford Mustang 8.8in 79-04 (Exc 99-04 Cobra), - 87-93 Ford Mustang 8.8 Axle Quad Shock Brackets Quadrant Shocks Mount Factory OE, - Bilstein Quad Shock 36mm Monotube Shock Absorber B6 for 87-04 Ford Mustang (Exc, - Bilstein B6 87-04 Ford Mustang (Exc 99-04 Cobra) Quad Shock 36mm Monotube Shock, - KYB Shocks & Struts Gas-A-Just Quad Shock Ford Mustang 8.8in 79-04 (Exc 99-04 Co, - KYB for Shock/Strut Gas-A-Just Quad Shock Ford Mustang 8.8in 79-04 KG4521, - KYB KG4521 Gas A Just Quad Shock fitsd Mustang 8.8in 79 04 (Exc 99 04 Cobra), - KG4521 KYB Shock Absorber and Strut Assembly Front or Rear Driver Passenger Side, - Bilstein B6 87-04 For Ford Mustang (Exc 99-04 Cobra) Quad Shock 36mm Monotube Sh, - KYB Shocks & Struts Gas-A-Just Quad Shock for Ford Mustang 8.8in 79-04 (Exc, - Bilstein B6 Quad Shock 36mm Monotube Shock Absorber for 87-04 Ford Mustang - 24-, - Pair Set of 2 Rear KYB Quad Shock Axle Shaft Dampers For Ford Mustang Mercury.



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