I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. Paste as plain text instead, SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I sold off all except Titegroup. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Clear editor. containers. Feb 27, 2020. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. This is a flattened spherical powder. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. When we are sold out, we are sold out. Nov 7, 2015. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Still using same load years later and it's a good round. This is safe, yes? Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. Seen a few of those over the years. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. . I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Is this not a safe load? LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . and 8 lb. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Makes 900fps out of my G17. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Really..so, how would someone measure that? You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. You say that now. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. Makes an impression on you. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. and 8 lb. You can post now and register later. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. Use the LRN and you will be good. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. My brother gave me some Titegroup. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. Thanks all. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. containers. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. I am using CBI pistol powder. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. Appreciate the input. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. and 8 lb. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! Same load just use the coal from another powders load. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Your previous content has been restored. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Reply Quote. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Thanks guys. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Why? After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Wish i could find it again. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. FMJ in my XD-9 vel. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. JavaScript is disabled. Save Share. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. Upgrade efforts paused for now. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. In Pistols and Revolvers.. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. LOL. Then work up from there. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. BrianEnos.com And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Display as a link instead, You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . Hodgdon.com says 3.9-4.3gr for LRN. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Obligatory start low and work your way up Depending upon the cartridge overall length. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. 2.8 gr. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. 3.4 gr. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber.